One of the chief accomplices of Lenin and co-conspirators, Prasanna had a series of bare-all threatening conversations with the “Chief Security Incharge” of His Divine Holiness.
Prasanna: Now only no we did the case and brought her (false victim)… Leave that… It was in a state where chargesheet itself could not be filed na? It was in a state where she could not even come, give it and go no?
Hamsa: Yes after that girl gave her statement only they filed chargesheet
Prasanna: After I went only they filed a chargesheet itself. Everything has been written, he (Nithyananda) is finished, complaint has been made to be given. We (Lenin and Prasanna) have given a rape complaint, we have put a complainant for the rape… 40% chargesheet we wrote. I expedited the chargesheet.
Prasanna (Lenin’s associate): I am giving you open news, I am telling. Every news that I am telling you now, will happen in 10 days. If I tell you one news today, that will happen in 10 days. That lady (false victim), see how I am going to bring to court you will see. That day you see who that lady is.
Hamsa: You had asked amount some Rs. 25 lakhs, right?.. no, You had asked amount some Rs. 25 lakhs
Prasanna: listen to me for a minute…That guy had came for money and from here, he had gone to Malaysia.
Prasanna: We are telling to keep 25 crores on the table… We will finish the whole thing and give
Hamsa: 25 crores is it?
Prasanna: Matter will be closed. For outside, 10 crores… Totally 35 crores will be spent
Hamsa: To close the complete case…
No, will he (Lenin) agree to that? I am asking, if he comes to know you, if you take 25 crores this side, won’t it become a problem?
Prasanna: With his knowledge only no we will sit for settlement. He will also sit na.
That is, everyone… will sit with Lenin only and the settlement, all the talking will happen…
This case settlement has to happen. It will settle only with money. But it will get settled.
Prasanna: Even if I take the money, I will take it on behalf of Lenin only na?
Hamsa: A share for him?
Prasanna: He (Lenin) will only deal majorly da… I am nothing da…He is the major. Only if he agrees we will agree to anything.
Prasanna: Of all people that black shit? (referring to Supriya who is dark complexioned)
Prasanna: coming from where she is, she shouldn’t say she is coming from a good family. What is there, food to eat, clothes to wear, sex life is also there (in the ashram).
Prasanna: in 2009, 2 days after Guru Purnima. You said it (Supriya’s case on Lenin) is attempt to rape, if you take the DNA test on you, its already torn (vaginal layer). Because Swami has already torn it for you, right? Atleast if you are married, you can say that your husband did Intercourse.
You are unmarried, then how can you claim attempt to rape? Then who did intercourse to you? In testing, they will give a certificate saying that the vaginal layer is torn through medical test.
Hamsa: What is he saying? Has anything like that happened? (Supriya’s attempted rape)
Prasanna: They have given complaint that he has raped. Complaint has gone to CID office. Keep that they won’t put any FIR. Whatever complaint they give will be tossed out.
Hamsa: mm
Prasanna: If we give something like, ‘after chargesheet is filed, they are giving a false complaint and tuning the direction…’ and we hit the rivet on the case, that’s all… Nithyananda group is trying to turn the direction of the case…
Hamsa: That (Supriya’complaint) has been cancelled is it?
Prasanna: (laughs) We have finished off Supriya’s case no!
Hamsa: It has been dismissed is it?
Prasanna: It didn’t go to court itself. They finished it off here itself
Hamsa: Still they haven’t filed for what Supriya has given
Prasanna: for anything, they will not be able to file ra? They will not be able to file. How will allow that?
Hamsa: Its been 4 – 5 days since she gave, but they are still not filing
Prasanna: what 4 – 5 days, they will not be able to file. Only after they do the enquiry…
Hamsa: Only after they do the enquiry, they will file the FIR?
Prasanna: yes yes yes. i.e they should give a lot of money to police. If they give money, then it is possible (to register the case) da otherwise not possible da
Prasanna: He will talk, he will do everything…. Our person is the biggest politician da… in India as well as internationally… He is big guy da…No one can do anything overriding him da…
Within 2 minutes of lodging the (Supriya’s) complaint, we spoke at the level of the CM within 20 minutes and gave instructions not to make the FIR copy…to keep it aside… Police SP got terrified and kept it aside. He sent them away saying it can’t be done.
Prasanna: I will kick them and go
There is no doubt in that. Let them come. If that Supriya, stands on the road, I will pull her (Supriya) down
One day she is going to have nicely, fucker… for her and 2-3 other people. I will show you see.
Even for that, when coming to the court, we were going to beat her up. We decided to let go. That day itself, we would have beaten her up. That’s why we roasted her in the court. Again, one more she is going to get. We will show.. we will not be there, without showing.
Prasanna: Will you talk to Lenin?
Hamsa: Is he there?
Prasanna: He (Lenin) is at home only. We are talking from Kancheepuram only.
Hamsa: He knows I talk to you?
Prasanna: Yes
Hamsa: You are going and telling him everything is it?
Prasanna: He knows everything da – what you speak and what I speak…
Prasanna: You need a reason no da to put inside? Who has the rights to arrest?
Hamsa: Karnataka
Prasanna: No, no… Police only has the rights no?
Hamsa: mm
Prasanna: That is enough right what else?
Hamsa: He (Lenin) has the police in his hands.
Prasanna: mm… Then what else is there?
Hamsa: That is also right only
Prasanna: (laughs) So,
Hamsa: Even if there is something, he will come like a bridegroom and go like a bridegroom, that’s all
Prasanna: If he (Nithyananda) talks anything unnecessary next… But one thing, let us see, we are deciding whether within April 30th, we can oust him (Nithyananda).
Hamsa: Is that so? Again ladies matter or something else?
Prasanna: In the same matter I will take and put him and see, watch.
Hamsa: Same matter is it?
Prasanna: In this same chargesheet itself, I will throw him inside, watch.
Hamsa: Oh, in this same chargesheet is it?
Prasanna: Putting him in this same chargesheet only
Hamsa: Apart from that, separately also?
Prasanna: That will happen separately. When he is put in that chargesheet and he is given bail, the next FIR copy will be filed and we will continue to beat (laughs)
Hamsa: mmm. Oh when this gets over you will start that?
Prasanna: Let him (Lenin) close 4-5 cases, and do all the plan to put him (Nithyananda) inside and come back…
Prasanna: They said that they can do it only after March ends. But they have said they will try before March ends.
Hamsa: What will they tell and come? Only if there is some reason, they can come and do something na?
Prasanna: Bail cancel da… Same case, bail cancel…
Prasanna: I told Lenin once, ‘Just stand da, I will lightly hit on your head, and get 4 stitches da. Stay in the hospital for one day, we can get the certificate.’ He said, ‘For his (Nithyananda’s) sake, why should I get hit?’
Hamsa: If someone asks, we can claim, the Ashram has hired someone to hit
Prasanna: yes
Hamsa: he said no?
Prasanna: I gave him the idea.. don’t worry, we will do that one day
Prasanna: Immediately, CID police will come for enquiry. Then we will ask the CID police itself to get the stay. The police will not object.
Hamsa: Why will they not object?
Prasanna: They will not… if we say, they will not, that’s all
Hamsa: oh.. that’s why you are saying
Prasanna: Besides that, they cannot do anything to him (Lenin), you see. Whoever they said as witness, they will call them and question them
Hamsa: yes
Prasanna: even the way they enquire will be different. First you know what they do to Ranjitha, when enquiring…
Prasanna: How beautifully he (Vinay) took me as a witness, took the statement, put my photo, 54 pages, he has clearly sent a document…
Hamsa: Who?
Prasanna: Bharadwaj. You know how da.. the day these people believe that I am a strong witness, that day only anything for these people… To make me a witness, correctly at which place what he spoke… me being there in that spot… he has photo for all that. If you see, I am there in everything.
Hamsa: Oh he is coming to say that the day the incident (homosexual alleged incident) he told has happened, you were there is it?
Yadev (devotee): What’s happening?. I heard that there is an arrest warrant
Prasanna: yes yes yes for Ayya
Yadev: Ayya?
Prasanna: aahnn.. Ayya and Ragini
Yadev: Swamiji?
Prasanna: Swamiji, only hereafter. you see, one one news I am telling you, isn’t it happening or not?
aahn, atleast now you tell me, four days ago, I am telling you what is going to happen, what is going to happen, but no one is taking notice of it means what will happen? Huh?
Yadev: hmmm
Prasanna: To you, I was telling you one by one, one by one, what did I tell you?. I told you they will not stop without arresting Ayya, you see..
Yadev: How do you know?, How did you know that information, like this?
Prasanna: That’s what I am telling everyone that I am with him(Lenin).. laughs
Prasanna: They will call Amma and Prana in 2 days..
Hamsa: ok ok ok
Prasanna: They will call and the Jeep will come and get them.
Hamsa: mmm
Prasanna: Now, that’s the stage it is in. They will just shake Ayya and Amma, nothing else, then will shake Prana also
Prasanna: No, I have gone deep in this. 200% I know all news, messages and everything I know, understand. I cannot tell too much. I know all the news, I am in direct touch with SP and DIG. I can talk to them anytime on phone, to that much extent I am in touch with them.
Prasanna: Everything, I can tell you what Judgement will come tomorrow. I myself can declare. According to that only judgements are coming
Hamsa: mmm
Prasanna: just one hour ago, SP talked, from IG’s office, Kishen called, He(IG) asked whether we can start the next. I told him, “no sir lets wait”. He said, “what is this pa, it is Christmas and wherever we go, they are on leave and New year leave are coming. Let’s see and go, you have done so much, what pa?”. I told him, “I will tell you this evening, when to start”
Prasanna: Charan Reddy himself has called and told,
Hamsa: saying what?
Prasanna: You have been standing strong.. I have a lot of hope in you.. people should be like you. No one is coming forward like this..
If he stands as witness, it will be very nice… DIG himself requested me, ‘You should stand till the very end…’ (referring to Prasanna going with CID to Allahabad for 2006 Kumbh mela related alleged abuses)
Prasanna: I am going to take all records from Jaipur, to Kumbh Mela… everything… SP and DIG is coming with me…
Hamsa: Charan Reddy is coming with you is it?
Prasanna: yes he is coming with me…
Hamsa: But it is Charan Reddy who instructs all of them na?
P: Yes yes, Charan Reddy only (instructs all of them)…
Prasanna: His (Lenin’s) 10 lac rupee cheque is with my friend da… If we put it in the bank…
Hamsa: Cheating cheque…
Prasanna: I told him, ‘I will put you inside, careful’
Hamsa: Because I know that friend for past 25 years…
Prasanna: Settlement got over… They sent money… 5 people gave money and he was brought out… It has been refunded… It is over… I called up Murugesan at that time… I told, ‘Say yes now, I will make it that he does not withdraw the case…’ At that time they did not give value to me…
Hamsa: How is your routine there?
Lenin: I don’t have any routine no? Then and now also… When have I attended routine?
Prasanna: I knew the news that they are going… I knew in the morning itself… that they are going to enter the ashram (referring to Rishi Daya’s, Shantimaya maharaj’s and Sachit Swami’s arrest incident)
Prasanna: I spoke to the inspector over phone na. He said over the phone, ‘One right chance, good chance has been entered. Now we are going to Bidadi ashram.’
Prasanna: To remove him (Swamiji), all signatures are done.
Hamsa: is that so?
Prasanna: All signatures are done. Its over.
Chief Minister, Home Minister, everyone has signed.
Hamsa: Who, Karnataka CM?.
Prasanna: Then what, instead of that(KA) CM, will this(TN) CM sign?
To re-arrest, you need government’s permission and need to get Home Department’s opinion. I told you it’s in pending, I will get the signature.
Hamsa: aahn, is that done?
Prasanna: yes, we got the sign
Home Minister is the main person. If the home minister signs… they would ask orally,
Conditional bail, if police has to re-arrest, then they have to get home department permission.
For which, the Home secretary has signed
Got it, then the paper came to DGP, then the DGP finished it and then went to legal opinion, now the papers are all ready. Tomorrow or day after, it will go to the court.
Prasanna: I only made them declare 89 crores. I only got accounts ready.
Who got it readied? I only sat and got it readied for 89 crores
Now I going to keep my hands on Nithyananda Import and Export
Prasanna: I have full direct contact with police, including SP
Yadev (devotee): ok.. police, police as long as they get some evidence, They will be behind you, behind dharma, behind… who is that, Kishen, everyone,
Prasanna: yes, all Kishen, me and Linen are the ones strong…
Yadev: Then, Kishen is the main…
Prasanna: Police will keep sending all the information to us all
Police and all… if they have any doubt, immediately, they will call and immediately, we will go to Bangalore. After going to Bangalore, we ourselves ask, ‘Can we do it this way?’… and we ask if there are questions.
Immediately, they will say, ‘ok we will do it.’
Prasanna: Yogappa said, ‘Prasanna only if you come, it can pass, all this Kumbhmela matter
If you come, in everything, your name is there. Only if you come, we can get all the records. We can find the spot and we can take all the pictures and bring everything.
In north, where all he (Nithyananda) stayed, what all happened, what time it happened, to collect all the details. Be with them and collect.’
We carried the hotel owner in Varanasi. We caught his shirt and lifted him.
Hamsa: Who?
Prasanna: I caught hold of the hotel owner’s shirt and lifted him!
Hamsa: You?
Prasanna: Yes
Hamsa: why?
Prasanna: Told him to take all the notes outside. There will be a notebook with my signature, I told him ‘get that out’. He took it cleanly.
The DSP gave him one (beating) nicely. The local policeman gave one slap to him…‘He says the record is there, what?’ And then he gave one slap and all the records came out.
Correctly it had my name and signature.
He said ‘Look he (Prasanna) didn’t lie, you only lied’ and he gave one more slap to him to show the record.
Then the opposite Hotel owner came and he said 2005, 2007, and 2008 accounts will be there, there is nothing for 2006.
Prasanna: Yes. About five days back, we lightly brought over Priya mayi, do you know?After digging all that, if that is published in the papers, what will happen to the family’s name? We are going to put that in the paper. We are going to put Priya Mayi’s with photo. A lady from a well off family who signed the sex contract In Nithyananda’s ashram. See, I will make it stink. When we are just time passing, suddenly we will give this.
Hamsa: If you feel bored sometime, you will suddenly give off this!
Prasanna: We will give and they will put
Prasanna: They would not have cooked that much and all… I have taken all the report including cooking report… Totally, not more than 1000 to 1500 people have come da… Clear da… There is no doubt in that da… I have seen completely through the CID camera…
Prasanna: So that tomorrow there should not be a law and order problem. If they come inside and hit, how many people will be involved… They will calculate… if 200-300 police come in and lathi charge, if they hit, at that time they should know how many people are coming… they should know the capacity na. Because like how they handcuffed Shiva and the other two and led them, they are going to put that handcuff for him also na…
Prasanna: Then what will they do? The beating on the knee, beating on the knee, beating on the knee – beating and all we have already planned. For that we are using influence at a tremendous level –to enter in and beat… They almost agreed to beat… Beating means inside beating, nothing will be seen outside… They will put gunpowder daa, that’s all daa…
Prasanna: Do you know when the lawyer went to the CID side, they stirred him and sent him back? Dhananjay went na… Police stirred him na
Yadev (devotee): ok, why are you getting involved in this?
Prasanna : They insulted me. In front of everyone, he called me a fraud!. In front of 100 people he (Nithyananda) said I am fraud. Not 100 members, 200 members, 300 members called me a fraud.
That day itself I showed my opposition to it no? I showed my strength that day itself… They should not have underestimated me that day…The next second after they put the accusation on me, I showed what my weight that day itself…
Prasanna: My aim itself is to close you by preventing devotees from coming only no da…? We are ready to spend 1 crore for that
Hamsa: But people are paying and coming
Prasanna: All that is next da… All that for me is next da…Reducing the fees and doing all that is next… For these people, according to today’s situation, their growth has taken a beating; that is enough…
Dhyanapeetam was at one point in time a praised peeta in Karnataka
Hamsa: Yes it was a mahasamsthana
Prasanna: It has died.
If he (Nithyananda) is inside for 6 months, volume will be over daa
Hamsa: mmm. Yes it will be over
Prasanna: Then for you to again gather the people it will take one year!
Hamsa: Definitely.
Prasanna: Our need is itself is to hit him on all sides only no? That is only our job!
We are a 10-people gang no da? We 10 people will destroy at one time your 10,000 people.
Prasanna: such a desire for you!, yes sir, I should at least beat 2 of them
Some car or the other will come, will throw 2 stones and break some glasses. Anyway, they will not be able to file any FIR against us even if they pull some hair. So, we can beat and crush them and go.
I have a master plan to beat them up inside.
I will kick them on the road.
Prasanna: You are coming to Chennai tomorrow? Because… In ashram, what is the talk, what are the activities like? Who are the organizers you are seeing, standing strongly and doing something? I want that organizers list alone… that is… What capacity they have in Chennai city… Let me see in 10 years, which organizer is there in History…
As far as outside group is concerned, we will patiently buy each one and make this case as nowhere… So come off now itself to the side where there is victory…
If anyone looks sort of… we immediately get his phone number and attack him. One day we finished Coimbatore Suresh over the phone.
Prasanna: It’s not like that. Till date, Lenin has never said that are 36 CDs
Hamsa: He has said it, even in video interview has said that
Prasanna: No
Hamsa: you ask him and see
Prasanna: he didn’t say 36 CDs.. you know how I did this technique.. like this we will use the word, only then all these guys will come running . This is a game. It’s a game we played, that’s all.
Prasanna: How many police will change! What is there for me!.. don’t need help. Hey!, why do I need help?. You don’t know who my Father is! You don’t know who I am in Tamil Nadu. My father is very close friend to C.N Annadurai da!. He denied the MLC post that came to home. Anna said he will select him as MP and he said he will give Chairman post. To that extent my father has name da.. Tamil Nadu state Chamber of commerce Secretary…? Association president and he is 25 yrs panchayat president, my father.
Yadev: great, ok, I respect that.
Prasanna: There is no IAS, IPS whom I don’t know… know that. There is no IAS, IPS whom my father don’t know and kolar district congress president is my uncle, my Mother’s own brother. And you Muniyappa who is now the central Minister.. I have the capacity to talk to him directly. Muniappa used to work for my Uncle. Now he is the central minister.
Prasanna: me?, if I have to tell in my language, they cannot even pull my hair(laughs). How much capacity they have, that much capacity I have. If I don’t have that capacity, would we have moved in the level of Modi?
Hamsa: who?
Prasanna: Modi level, in Narendar Modi’s level, we have moved. In how many places, I made them turn thing off. We made the CM turn off, we also made Modi to be turned off. We talked to US, we are not here just like that… in US, we talked and finished, we will end the story
With them both (Karntaka CM and Modi) only, I have been talking on the phone. With them only, we talked from Himalayas, we did everything. Then bail (cancellation), making the bail move…it was all through them. Had Modi do it, and then talked to Yedayurappa and then got Yedayurappa’s support. He has good support Raja…
Hamsa: Police themselves will support
Prasanna: Not only police… nice… we are all there… we will leave or what?
Hamsa: Correct. You have people for finance, people for power, people for political…
Prasanna: For everything they are there. They can talk. Like fools, they are talking… Let them talk, let them talk…
Prasanna: Do you know what my one aim now is? For me and for Lenin? Beating has been decided. The permission for all that has come from the higher authorities also. That’s all, they have said to beat.
Yes, from the high influence place itself it has come
Hamsa: BJP Government is it?
Prasanna: Yes, it has come from all Governments – to beat
Hamsa: Sri Sri
Prasanna: Yes yes yes
Hamsa: They only are doing this fully from the back… so says one of our devotees who is the Tirupattur organizer while talking… He said, ‘They had put it in one issue of Nakkeeran also earlier… They had put one photo of Swami and one photo of his and inbetween this lady’s photo.’ Not only that, his associate told I believe that they (Sri Sri) are the ones supporting from the back in order to fully destroy them (referring to Nithyananda’s mission). They are the ones fully, he told me.
Prasanna: Tirupattur devotee told is it?
Hamsa: Yes yes. He is telling very clearly… You too told right? ‘We had gone there, we sat for one hour and spoke – Lenin and I…’ I did not reveal all that. I was just listening to what he was telling. He is clearly telling…